Something like the Allen Hot Blond costs $1700 for the head new and might be a place to start. What I'm not sure of is, what a similarly powered modern clone would run (used).
I completely agree that it no longer carries the collector value here and the price must be adjusted. Thinking objectively, when I see a highly molested example, I start think about it as the sum of the parts and come up with a value I can live with based on comparable clones or modded amps. With amps like the Showman, Bandmasters, and Bassmans, I'm not sure they carry the silly collector influenced prices of the low and mid powered amps. A tweed champ for example wasn't a $1k amp for me 15 years ago, so its surely not a $3k+ amp for me now. I think the collector value can have an impact, especially on some of the smaller combo amps that are now passing $3k. Not sure I completely agree with your post specifically that "most of the price of a vintage Fender Bandmaster is "collector value". You know the Fender market in your location better than us in the states though. I’d maybe pay $400US for the amp you’re looking at, but only if there was no potential to buy one with original transformers. Here in the state the going rate for a BF Bandmaster is $600 to $1000US. I’ve noticed some HUGE differences in sound in amps I’ve replaced transformers in (about 15 or so over the years). I also have a 1964 Vox AC-50 with a replaced OT and a 1965 AC-50 with the original transformers. The 65 sounds awesome, but I wouldn’t have bought it if the transformers were replaced. I have a 1965 Deluxe (non reverb) that has had all of its signal caps replaced, and a 1967 Deluxe Reverb that has all the original Blue molded caps. He also had a Twin and a Bassman - I’m guessing it was a blonde, early ’60s - and he used the Gretsch guitar with the Twin and the Bassman on ‘ Won’t Get Fooled Again.Click to expand.I’d say signal cap replacement would range from “no difference at all”, to “a small but noticeable difference” and OT replacement would range from “a notable difference” to “sounds like a completely different amp”.
One is the Gretsch, and the other is Pete’s SG. You can hear two distinct guitar sounds on Who’s Next. Alan Rogan: “We still have the same setup that Pete used on Who’s Next: the orange Gretsch 6120 that Joe gave to Pete, a tweed Bandmaster with three 10s, and the powered Goldrich volume pedal - Goldrich being Manny Goldrich, from Manny’s in New York. It’s invariably listed among the greatest albums of the entire rock era, and it electrifies new generations of listeners to this day.
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Like being given an orange Gretsch Country Gentleman and an Edwards pedal by Joe Walsh, and being told exactly how to set up the amp to produce that amazing Neil Young noise, and using that sound on “ Won’t Get Fooled Again” and “ Bargain.” Excerpt from The Soul of Tone: Celebrating 60 Years of Fender Amps interview with Alan RoganĪ mighty roar of exhilarating music, the epic Who’s Next was released in the summer of 1971. I think the significant moments have actually had a lot to do with guitars, actual guitars. Excerpt from Guitar Player, October 1989 Do you have a favorite period in your career, where you feel you broke down what you regarded as guitaristic barriers? 2002, ’59 Bandmaster, with Hiwatt DR103W visible in the background. It’s the same chain, even the same guitar cable - an old Whirlwind. I’ve still got the amp and I often use it. CG: You recorded some incredible music with that Gretsch. It’s got to be just that combination of stuff. If I try to fuck with it and say, “Wouldn’t it be interesting if I took the Gretsch and put it through a Zoom pedal,” it doesn’t work. When I get those three things out and put them in a chain, it’s a sound from paradise.
And I bought you a Fender Bandmaster amplifier with three 10s so the ohmage is crazy, and an Edwards pedal steel volume pedal.” I linked it all up, went “Ya-a-ang” and it was there. I know you don’t really get into them, but you should try this. I don’t know what to get you in return so I bought you a Gretsch Country Gentleman, like Neil Young uses. I remember when I gave Joe Walsh an ARP 2600. There are lots of other chains that produce great sounds. You plug it into the right old Fender amp and you get the sound. Excerpt from September 1993 Guitar Player Selected quotesĪll quotes and references are copyright their original owners and are included for reference only.
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